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IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:43 pm
by 19deadhead65
Hi everybody so I am in need of some rig input, on what I could change or add! All comments are appreciated! So I have a Modded HSH squire strat, and a 67 sg special, then for pedals (in this order) Dunlop crybaby wah, qtron+, JHS little black buffer, soul food (for clean boost), 79 phase 100, dd-3. Then my amp is a fully reserviced 78 deluxe reverb into a 2x12 jbl d-120f cab. What do you think? I am planning on buying an alembic blaster for the strat but have yet to do so.

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:08 am
by MattMan
Need to hear. Why is buffer third?

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:10 am
by 19deadhead65
Matt, the buffer is third because I read it's best to go after envelope, but if that's incorrect what should I do? And I cannot Post a clip, sorry.

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:16 am
by Bigfoot Co.
Speaker ohm? Wired in series or parallel? Stock transformer in the amp?

Asking because I’m curious about how you are running those 2 speakers off that amp. Stock DR transformer will want to see an 8 ohm load. Stock jbls are 8 ohm. So your two speakers wired parallel = 4ohm, wired series = 16ohm. As I understand it, Some Ohm mismatch is generally ok with fender amps. Some people even prefer it. but in this case I would think that it would be a detriment due to the DRs inherently low power rating. In short, a pair of JBLs will want to see Way more juice coming from the amp. I’d think you’d be better off putting One of the JBLs in the DR cabinet.

And try the buffer first.

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:55 am
by 19deadhead65
I run them parallel, It is the stock transformer. Why do you think i should just run one JBL? What would I benefit from it? Should i run it in a 1x12 extension cab? the current speaker in my DR is an Eminence Cannabis Rex, but i bypass that for the Jerry tone.

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:57 am
by 19deadhead65
Bigfoot Co. wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:16 am
Speaker ohm? Wired in series or parallel? Stock transformer in the amp?

Asking because I’m curious about how you are running those 2 speakers off that amp. Stock DR transformer will want to see an 8 ohm load. Stock jbls are 8 ohm. So your two speakers wired parallel = 4ohm, wired series = 16ohm. As I understand it, Some Ohm mismatch is generally ok with fender amps. Some people even prefer it. but in this case I would think that it would be a detriment due to the DRs inherently low power rating. In short, a pair of JBLs will want to see Way more juice coming from the amp. I’d think you’d be better off putting One of the JBLs in the DR cabinet.

And try the buffer first.

Also the ohm for the JBLs 8.

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:35 pm
by Bigfoot Co.
19deadhead65 wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:55 am
I run them parallel, It is the stock transformer. Why do you think i should just run one JBL? What would I benefit from it? Should i run it in a 1x12 extension cab? the current speaker in my DR is an Eminence Cannabis Rex, but i bypass that for the Jerry tone.
I would replace the rex with one of the jbls. My opinion is that the DR by design will be happiest and perform its best when seeing the correct 8ohm load. By running it to the cab with a 4ohm load, you are asking it to do something it was not designed to do. When you are starting with only 22 Watts, IMO this matters.

If you want or need to run the 2x12 cab, get a fender amp that’s up to the task. Something with a 4 ohm trSnsformer, like a bandmaster reverb, bassman, showman, twin in a head etc..

Re: IN need of Rig input!!!

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:09 pm
by PaulJay
I would think the buffer pedal should be first inline to push your signal thru the chain. The q Tyron will react better that way too.