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Pillars of improvisation

PostPosted:Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:07 pm
by johnjoe
Hey recall in a jerry interview he mentioned that the dead had a set of rules or "pillars" was the word he used to guide the jams . I think he joked about over time they would get rid of one or add another. Would love to know more!

Re: Pillars of improvisation

PostPosted:Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:43 am
by aiq
Don't know about Garcia but I have heard:

Ear training
Lexicon
Technique

Re: Pillars of improvisation

PostPosted:Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:09 am
by Jon S.
aiq wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:43 am
Don't know about Garcia but I have heard:

Ear training
Lexicon
Technique
https://www.guitarplayer.com/technique/ ... rovisation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3Oj2tPx90

Re: Pillars of improvisation

PostPosted:Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:37 pm
by johnjoe
thanks for the replies , useful links
am I imagining that I read or heard about the pillar thing in a Garcia interview?

Re: Pillars of improvisation

PostPosted:Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:37 pm
by wolftigerrosebud
i think i may remember the interview you’re talking about. don’t know for sure what he meant. my guess would be that there are habitual vamps, modulations, and substitutions that improvising groups fall into over time within given songs or during sections of their act, and that that these familiar jumping-off points for improvisation may be what he meant by the word “pillar”. i guess the reason i think it refers to familiar/fertile interpersonal improvisation patterns within the group (rather than being about some of the other more explicitly technique-oriented things mentioned) is because it’s the only real “X” factor i can think of besides inspiration itself. other facets of technique & performance have specific names — names which as a rule jerry seemed to use when he talked about them in interviews. he was more open and eloquent about how and what he worked on in private practice than most famous musicians so i assume that if he knew of a clearer way to describe his experience he would use it. but of course maybe i’m wrong about it too, just my guess.

but also +1 on the importance of ear training, lexicon, technique, and the interesting piece on improv which was linked to.