easytoslip wrote: Mr.Burns wrote:
easytoslip wrote: by dropping hits of acid the risk is very very real and very very high, correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
Consider yourself corrected.
I don't know, your side of the debate simply says 'he who is strongest wins'. My side of the debate is much more involved than simply being able to fight your way through something. At some point, the physical body is not able to win. If you have gotten to that point where you surrender to that fact, there lies your path to spirituality. Your argument is all body. I'm talking about body, mind, spirit, emotion, many different facets. So, nice try, but I'm not convinced.
hippieguy1954 wrote: Sometimes the door it opens is the one into the room with the sign that says "don't take it anymore"
agreed. I definitely think each person will have different time frames to getting there, and I'm curious what kind of lives people lead, ones that have not reached this point and are 50 or 60 years old. I wonder if they were among the 45 year old men still living with their mothers? and how many of them spent time on and off in psych wards? saying you can muscle through something like LSD just doesn't make sense to me. The whole point is to lose your mind in it, why would you try to maintain your mind while taking it?
I mean, I'm a part of a few different communities of people, the majority of which are anti drug and lead really dynamic healthy lives for the most part. The Dead communities obviously are more ok with drug use, but what is the deciding factor that makes the Deadheads' lives successful? That they are having fun? possibly. health can be directly related to fun and happiness, but I believe there comes a point where a person needs more than that simple ease in life, that challenges actually make life more interesting and make a person happier on a deeper, more fulfilling level. Drug use is easy, and some might say an escape from challenges in life.
I'm 57 and I've been my 93 yr. old bed ridden Mother's primary care giver for almost 1.5 yrs sense she had me take her out of a nursing home and move her into my home because she didn't want to be in a nursing home. My point is, I don't think it matters who lives with whom. In these days of economic turmoil, (and even if there was not economic turmoil), I've seen quite a few situations where an older man lives with his mother and they both benefit greatly i.e. she gets cheap help and he gets a cheap place to sleep etc.. Everyone’s situation is different. No one should be discriminated upon because of that.
True, there have been many people who have taken one dose of LSD, and have never been the same and are still in a psych ward. In most cases, they and or their friends should have known better. Back to the point I made in my last post about being in the right state of mind before even thinking about taking it.
I would never recommend it to anyone. It is something you have to want. Not just to “get high”, but to explore. If you’re not sure and you’re just going to do it because a friend does or something like that, you could be in for a big surprise you will regret.
Also, even someone who is not at risk and is experienced with LSD might have to muscle through the first part of a trip sometimes. Only that person can determine why or if it is worth it or just don’t do it anymore.
Yes, “drug” use is easy until you become an addict.
Fact: Marijuana is not physically addictive, but can have long term effects. Good ones in my opinion. If everyone smoked Marijuana, there would be a lot less motivation to be rich and greedy. It should be legal and not grouped with ther others.
Fact: LSD is not physically addictive, but can have long term effects. Some good, some not so good depending on the person.
All the other so called “recreational drugs” cocaine, heroin, morphine, alcohol etc. are very physically addictive and ruin people’s lives and kill them.
What do you consider ”successful”?
Some see it as having a good/easy job and lots of money and lots of material objects like houses and boats. They usually have problems of all sorts, because they have a pseudo happiness that inevitably does not do the trick.
Some, such as me, see it as being happy not to be mainstream, work hard, being happy with the self, content with less, not part of the rat race, just comfortable, eat small but healthy, be clean and able to smoke weed and play music.
Real happiness comes from inside you. It is being content with yourself. You can’t buy it (although some try).