When it doesn't fit anywhere else
 #38490  by Cowboy Neil
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:17 am
True, the Grateful Dead were know for long jams and long songs, but I wonder: What was the longest single jam that they did. How long did it last? what song(s)? and when did they do it. Seems it to mee it must have been back in the three set days of the 70's but can not tell from set list. Any ideas out there?

 #38506  by krzykat
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:26 am
its gotta be a dark star, i think there was one that was 45 min long, but i forget where it was from

 #38512  by drums>space
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:02 pm

Playin in the band clocks at 46:26

thats the longest song in my entire archive

 #38515  by seamus
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:35 pm

Saint of Circumstance 42:48

Not quite 46:26 but its up there

 #38517  by China Cat
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:59 pm
what about the early days (im thinking 60s) when their catalog was small so they relied on jams? i think phil said something about it in SFTS, but i dont remember

 #38519  by drums>space
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:28 pm

Saint of Circumstance 42:48

Not quite 46:26 but its up there
your referring to dicks picks 13, which if you listen to the whole song their is a long pause after saint and theirs a bonus scarlet>fire, thats why it says its so long.

 #38521  by seamus
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:41 pm
haha sorry my bad :oops:

 #38522  by drums>space
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:47 pm
i remember when i bought it i was like WTF 40 some minute long jam of saint, i gotta hear it!! then saint just ended and i fast forwarded and started hearing scarlet. The scarlet>fire is very good so it was a nice suprise

 #38538  by weirimpressed
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:53 pm
i have a dark star thats pretty long, but nothing like forty two minutes, what show is it from?

 #38542  by drums>space
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:22 pm
"There is spirited debate over which performance of "Dark Star" ran the longest. Although May 11, 1972’s version is often credited as lasting 47:12, this timing includes a drum solo lasting 4:03. The “Dark Star” from August 28, 1969 has been cited as lasting 63:51, although this timing includes a 9:49 jam on the theme of another GD song called "The Eleven". Purists point out that this performance was not by the Grateful Dead, but “Mickey and the Hartbeats”, the name adopted for shows the band members played in 1968 and 1969 without Weir or McKernan. It is agreed that the band’s longest uninterrupted performance of the song took place on December 6, 1973. Lasting 43:27, this rendition goes on for eighteen seconds longer than the combined times of the “Dark Star” segments played on 5-11-72"

got this from wikipedia


 #38547  by Chuckles
 Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:36 pm
Longest jam? Seems like a question of semantics to me.

Taken as a whole, the 5/11/72 Dark Star would be my pick. The drums are as much a part of the Dark Star as the rest of the playing... or should we discount times when other band members are sitting out for a few minutes (and it happens).

I've always considered the jams out of Drumz - like into the Other One or Wheel to be an intro part of the song. Or, for example, in NFA... does the song begin with that opening E>A riff, or is it established with the laying down of the beat?

It's all a question of the way on in or the way back out... :smile:

 #38601  by China Cat
 Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:25 pm
"During the lull, a voice yelled from the audience: 'Hey Jerry, how about something new?' Jerry and i looked at each other, and i turned to Billy and whispered 'Alligator! One, two, three...,' and we kicked into the new tune at full tilt. Forty-five minutes later, as we slowly let the feedback fade down, Jerry stepped to the mike and said, 'That's all we got that's new for now, but we'll be back for more."

this was that section of SFTS i was thinking of. seemed like a pretty cool moment. anyone know which show this was and the actual time?

 #38647  by BuddhaG
 Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:35 am
The Music Never Stopped......

:D :lol: :smile: